I'm new here, but I have plenty of ideas

[SWAHILI!!!]

Hello everybody, I'm new here, but I have quite a bit of ideas.
I've already looked at the screenshots that are at the bottom of the forum, and they look so cool.
Anyway, my ideas:
SHIPS
UFO, a.k.a. Unknown Object:
Race: Goner
Class: Scout, M5
Speed: 600 m/s
Freight Capacity: 100 M sized containers
Hull: 1,500 Mass Units
Steering: 150%
Acceleration: 11 m/sÂ?
Shielding: 4x1 MW
Weapons: Lasers: 3 Forward Mounts, Alpha Kyon Emitter, Missiles: Sting

Kha'ak Corvette
Race: Kha;ak
Class: Corvette, M6
Speed: 230 m/s
Freight Capacity: 1,500 XL sized containers
Hull: 45,000 Mass Units
Steering: 14.5%
Acceleration: 15 m/sÂ?
Shielding: 3x125 MW
Docking: 3 Ships (M5)
Weapons: Turrets: 3; Lasers: 4x Gamma Kyons Main, 4x Beta Kyons Up, 4x Betta Kyons Down, 3x Gamma Kyons Back; Missiles: Thorn

Kha'ak Mothership
Race: Kha'ak
Class: Mothership, M0
Speed: 210 m/s
Freight Capacity: 10,000 XL sized containers
Hull: 1,000,000 Mass Units
Acceleration: 6 m/sÂ?
Shielding: 10x125 MW
Docking: 80 Ships (M3, M4, M5, TS, TP)
Weapons: Turrets: 6; Lasers: 1x Super Kyon Main, 4x Gamma Kyons Up, 4x Gamma Kyons Down, 4x Gamma Kyons Left, 4x Gamma Kyons Right, 4x Gamma Kyons Front, 4x Gamma Kyons Back; Missiles: Thorn

Xenon O
Race: Xenon
Class Mothership, M0
Speed: 110 m/s
Freight Capacity: 10,000 XL sized containers
Hull: 1,000,000 Mass Units
Acceleration: 2 m/sÂ?
Shielding: 10x125 MW
Docking: 50 Ships (M3, M4, M5, TS, TP)
Weapons: Turrets: 6; Lasers: 1x Some type of super powerful beam weapon like the Super Kyon), 4x Gamma PPC Up, 4x Gamma PPC Down, 4x Gamma PPC Left, 4x Gamma PPC Right, 4x Gamma PPC Back, 18x Gamma PPC Front; Missiles: Hornet

I would try to help mod, but I'm on a crappy mac laptop, and there aren't any modding programs that work on apples. If there were, I'd try to help, but there aren't any.
Hope I'm not being too crazy here.

Cheers,
S

Edited because I forgot a few things on the stats.

[Gravemind]

hello swahili!!! your ideas are good maybe you could get some ideas for new argon/teladi/split ship ideas :D

[SWAHILI!!!]

Sure, I could come up with loads more!
I have one for the Boron, since they really need some sort of real protection:
Boron Kraken
Race: Boron
Class: M0, Mothership
Speed: 310 m/s
Freight Capacity: 4,500 XL containers
Hull: 1,500,000 mass units
Steering: 3.55%
Acceleration: 15 m/s
Shielding: 10x 125 MW
Docking: 40 Ships (M3, M4, M5, TS)
Weapons: Turrets: 6; Lasers: 4x Gamma PPC Up, 4x Gamma PPC Down, 4x Beta PPC Left, 4x Beta PPC Right, 4x Gamma PPC Back, 8x Gamma PPC Front, 1x Super Weapon (the same as the Xenon O) Main; Missiles: Hornet

Argon Cerberus
Race: Argon
Class: Light Destroyer, Small Carrier, M1
Speed: 215 m/s
Freight Capacity: 3,000 XL containers
Hull: 900,000 mass units
Steering: 2.3%
Acceleration: 9 m/s
Shielding: 7x 125 MW
Docking: 60 ships (M3, M4, M5)
Weapons: Turrets: 6; Lasers: 4x Gamma PPC Up, 4x Beta PPC Down, 4x Gamma PPC Left, 4x Gamma PPC Right, 4x Alpha PPC Back, 4x Gamma PPC Front, 6x Gamma PPC Main; Missiles: Hornet

Split Couger
Race: Split
Class: Mothership, M0
Speed: 278 m/s
Hull: 1,000,000 mass units
Steering: 3%
Acceleration: 10 m/s
Shielding: 9x125 MW
Docking: 15 ships (M3, M4, M5, M6 maybe??)
Weapons: Turrets: 6; 4x Gamma PPC Up, 4x Gamma PPC Down, 4x Gamma PPC Left, 4x Gamma PPC Right, 4x Gamma PPC Back, 4x Gamma PPC Front, 2x Super Kyon Emitter Main; Missiles: Hornet.

Not sure about Teladi at the moment. . . .
I'll keep thinking!

[Chris Gi]

Hi SWAHILI!!!, welcome to the X2-Pandora Forum!

Too bad, you're on 'a crappy mac laptop', but you can still help! Your ideas are always welcome and you could test the mod and the scripts on a mac if you want to.

The idea of a Khaak corvette never came into my mind. Nice idea! But I'm not sure about the weapons: 4x Gamma Kyon Main, 3x Gamma Kyon Back. This is tough... too taugh?
And the UFO should use other weapons besides the Alpha Kyon Emitter - they are hard to acquire.
And I like the idea of a Super Kyon Emitter and a Xenon Super weapon.

We haven't discussed the existence of M0 for the other races. We haven't even thought about it. But afaik docking of a M6 is not possible.

[SWAHILI!!!]

Sure, sign me up for official mod tester! I'd love to.
Maybe for the Kha'ak Corvette, it should only have Gamma Kyons on the main mount, and Betas on the other turrets? That seems like it's a tad more reasonable. And I have a picture of the Kha'ak Corvette in X3, I just have to search through Egosoft to find it.
Are there any custom weapons in Pandora? Because I imagine the UFO to have some nice beam weapons for it's defenses.

I'll keep coming up with new ship ideas.

Edit 1:
Here, I found the Kha'ak Corvette picture:
http://www.entertainment-mogul-x.com/EMM/Extras/Ships/Under-consruction-ships/khaak2.jpg
What do you think?

[Chris Gi]

Right now, there are no custom weapons except changed bullets for some standard weapons. But I'd like to have some - which means we need factories for new weapons and a rework of the cockpit definitions. That's why every new weapon means a lot of work. But as I said before, I like the idea of special weapons for the Khaak M0 and Xenon M0.

Well, I never liked the Khaak design in X3 except one sphere like. But as you can see by the gallery, the Khaak get an insect-like look. I want to finish the design of the small ships and adjust the M1/M2 to the insect-like look. The corvette as I think of it fills the gap between the two design patterns.

Regarding the testing: first we have to translate the texts used (except you know german :) ). BTW, do you know the name of the file with the spoken texts?

[SWAHILI!!!]

Ummm, well, I don't really know German. I mean, my mom knows a bit, but I don't think she'd like to translate everything for me!
And what file are you speaking of?
I might be able to find it if I could know the specs of it.

[Chris Gi]

The spoken texts are all in a file in the X2-directory\mov. The file in the german version is '00149.dat'.
The reason I am asking is the following: I use samples from sentences the bord computer speaks and combine them in different order. This way I get names for the new ship that are spoken by the bord computer. If I target a ship, the computer actually speaks it's name. Maybe a similar thing can be done in every language. Maybe I will ask in the English Ego-Forum, because I need to download this file somewhere.

[SWAHILI!!!]

Well, there are 16 files, and the one that's closest to the one for the German one is 00144.ogg, which I don't think helps you.

[Chris Gi]

Well, I think this is the file I'm looking for. '49' is the id for German text, '44' for English. The *.dat extension is misleading, it's just a *.wma sound file with the extension *.dat. *ogg is the extension for Ogg-Vorbis sound format. It seems this is the file I'm looking for. Can you upload it somewhere for me to download?

[SWAHILI!!!]

Ummm, I'll try. Not sure if it will work though. I'll post again when I have it!
Or, wait.

Could I just e-mail it to you?
That'd be a bit easier, but would it still work?

[Chris Gi]

I think email won't work. The 00149.dat is 123 MB, and 00144.ogg should be of a similar size (if not, it's the wrong file anyway). I'm pretty sure my inbox won't accept a file that big.

If uploading doesn't work - no great deal, I ask for the file in the English forum.

[SWAHILI!!!]

Okay, I'll try the uploading thing right now.
I'll use one of the sites that other modders used from Egosoft.
I'll post the link once I get it up and working.


Edit 1: Well, sorry, the sites were really stupid and I couldn't get it uploaded.
Maybe you'll have to try Egosoft.

[Chris Gi]

Never mind :thumbup: Thanks for the trial!

[SWAHILI!!!]

Since we talked about custom weapons a little, do you think it would be possible to make a weapon like this for the capital ships?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jz4-3TMX-kQ

[Chris Gi]

Wow, looks really cool. But I don't know if this works in X2. The weapon seems to be a rocket, judging by the trail. I don't know much about X3-Modding, so I can only guess.
I think making a weapon like this is really difficult in X2. This will last a little time until we know if it's possible.

[Adlantis]

It's not a real Rocket. It's just like IRE or any other standard weapon. It is just modelled to look like a rocket. (Xtended Mod)

[SWAHILI!!!]

Yeah, the guy who put the video up said that he was messing around with the PPC stuff and he got that effect.
But I don't know if it'll work in X2

[Chris Gi]

I think that will be pretty hard to get a similar effect in X2.

@Adlantis:
Hast Du X3 entpackt und könntest mir die Waffendefinition bzw. den benutzten Body mal geben? Mein Computer ist immer noch kaputt und ich hab' kein X3 auf dem Laptop...

[SWAHILI!!!]

Are you guys going to have bridge crew in this mod, like Harlock is in Top Gun 3.0?
That's
probably going to be one of the only reasons that I'll use his mod, is
I want his new ships, and the bridge crew would be cool.


Edit 1: Okay, this morning I got yet another idea for the mod, and I'm going to run it by Harlock when I get home from school.
One more ship, the Player Headquarters.
It's essentially a massive ship that is designed to look like a station (maybe like the actual player HQ in X3 , or something).
This could be it's stats:

Player Headquarters
Race: Player
Class: Headquarters, M0
Speed: 0 m/s
Freight Capacity: 1,000,000 XL sized containers
Hull: 5,000,000 Mass Units
Steering: 0%
Acceleration: 0 m/s
Shielding: Either 20x125 or (if there'd be a new shield slot primarily for stations, or something), 10x1,000 MW
Docking:
500 Ships (M3, M4, M5, TS, TP, but there would be 'parking spaces' for
a larger M6 or smaller M2 or M1 in it's HUGE hangar bay, and there
would be several extensions on the top of the ship that you could
'park' your larger capital ships).
Weapons: None
Turrets: 6;
(They'd be offices or lounges, something like this) Officer Lounge, Station Control Center, A view of the hangar bay, another lounge, ect. The main cockpit (when you dock with the HQ) would be a scene similar to Elena Kho's office in the Terracorp HQ.
Missiles: Mosquito (only because that's the default, right?)

What do you think? Would it be stupid? Or would you like it?
I think it would be good for someone who prefers trading instead of fighting, as you could use it as a storage place too, as it has HUGE cargo room, and it could be your base of operations.

Let me know, I got to go, school's about to start.

[Chris Gi]

Well, bridge crews. Really cool stuff. I'm looking forward to Top Gun Mod V3.0. We haven't discussed this, but I'm not into it for 3 reasons:
1. My moddeling capabilies just aren't good enough, I think.
2. It's Harlock's idea, and he's the one who should do it. It's the outstanding feature of Top Gun Mod, a feature never seen before.
3. X2 has some limitations, especially when it comes to texturing. I don't know for sure right now, but I believe to create good looking bridge crews new textures are needed. X2-Pandora uses a lot of new textures, there's simply no place. I don't know if this is really a problem, maybe using the old textures is enough.

I won't do any bridge crew, but maybe one of the other modders around here :?:

Player HQ:
not sure about this. There will be something like this, but I'm not sure which model to use. There's a main problem with X2: it's docking of the big ships. X3 goes beyond the possibilities of X2, that's why a Player HQ is possible.
One thing is sure. The Player HQ won't be a ship but a station, because it needs the capability to dock a M1 and the like. This is not possible with a ship. The result of the 'research' I've done so far shows that the capability to dock big ships is limited to Shipyards etc. and that is not possible to dock on any other station. If this is approved, then the Player HQ will be an Argon Shipyard (or similar station), no new model. It all still needs a little more analysis and some trials before the final decision. But I want to have such a thing - and where's a will, there's a way. :D

[Gravemind]

I won't do any bridge crew, but maybe one of the other modders around here :?:
we could modify the military crew AL plugin... you know where you must search the transport ship to get the crew.

[SWAHILI!!!]

Well, bridge crews. Really cool stuff. I'm looking forward to Top Gun Mod V3.0. We haven't discussed this, but I'm not into it for 3 reasons:
1. My moddeling capabilies just aren't good enough, I think.
2. It's Harlock's idea, and he's the one who should do it. It's the outstanding feature of Top Gun Mod, a feature never seen before.
3. X2 has some limitations, especially when it comes to texturing. I don't know for sure right now, but I believe to create good looking bridge crews new textures are needed. X2-Pandora uses a lot of new textures, there's simply no place. I don't know if this is really a problem, maybe using the old textures is enough.

I won't do any bridge crew, but maybe one of the other modders around here :?:

Player HQ:
not sure about this. There will be something like this, but I'm not sure which model to use. There's a main problem with X2: it's docking of the big ships. X3 goes beyond the possibilities of X2, that's why a Player HQ is possible.
One thing is sure. The Player HQ won't be a ship but a station, because it needs the capability to dock a M1 and the like. This is not possible with a ship. The result of the 'research' I've done so far shows that the capability to dock big ships is limited to Shipyards etc. and that is not possible to dock on any other station. If this is approved, then the Player HQ will be an Argon Shipyard (or similar station), no new model. It all still needs a little more analysis and some trials before the final decision. But I want to have such a thing - and where's a will, there's a way. :DOh, wait, I think you got me wrong.
I didn't mean that capital ships could dock there, I meant that it would have such a huge docking bay that you could just fly your M6 into the hangar, park it there, dock into a M5, then dock at the ship. I didn't mean that you could dock a M6 at the station.
And why does the HQ have to be a station? I mean, it doesn't really have to dock a capital ship, does it?
And also, I meant that it could have the size and shape of the Player Headquarters, but with X2 graphics and everything.

And about the crew, they'd just be a part of the background.

[Chris Gi]

You're right, the Player HQ can be a ship. I was thinking of a station because the mod needs one. But the station I'm thinking of and a Player HQ needn't be the same.

But why should it be a ship? The only advantages I see is the capability of a ship to carry weapons (and that the number of ships docking can be restricted) - and of course to make an office instead of a bridge.
Yeah, the X3 Player HQ looks cool. I once managed to get in X2 (I mean the original model retextured), but the station just uses too many polygons. So if we decide to make an Player HQ, we need to remodel it.

I think a Player HQ should have special capabilities. Any ideas?

[Gravemind]

it can modfiy the ships with shields/weapons/speed but it needs then time

[Graceburn]

maybe there could be like a buy/sell locater, but you could search the entire universe and get a message from the program?

[Sammy]

It tells you if a station is no longer in black numbers?
Sry 'bout my really bad english ^^

[rhonkar]

Well i saw your idea called "Cerberus", haven't you watch a little the XTM Mod, because that's the name of the Argon M7 :whistling:

Also, you have good ideas! Well done :thumbsup: Why aren't you all employed by Egosoft? :D

[SWAHILI!!!]

Oh course I haven't seen any of the stuff from XTM. . . . . :whistling:

I mainly use their names for stuff.

Welcome to the forum, by the way!